Interview
with Ruxandra Balaci, Scientific Director of MNAC, published in Observator
Cultural, Nr. 220
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THE NATIONAL
MUSEUM OF CONTEMPORARY ART - AN OPEN RESEARCH LAB
Ruxandra
Balaci, you are the Romanian curator with the most extensive international
CV and, for over a year and a half, Scientific Director of MNAC. Where
are we? The place can baffle someone not familiar with contemporary art,
being at the same time extremely trendy, serious and "normal"
for someone acquainted with art sites the world over.
We are at Kalinderu MediaLab, the first media Lab in Romania and one of
the first spaces in Eastern Europe dedicated to multimedia creation and
showcasing. We are proposing here a kind of "anteroom" to the
MNAC-KML preoccupations, the multimedia nucleus of the Curatorial - Research
- International Affairs Department until the inauguration of the spaces
in The House of the People. Reserved to dialogue and interactivity, video
or photographic experiment, installation and digital art, KML has adapted
to very diverse projects, from the intense experience proposed by Calin
Dan in Emotional Architecture, and the Romanian-Dutch colloquium which
followed it, on the theme of Bucharest architecture and its reflection
in the artistic mindset or in the collective mindset, to Remembering-Repressing-Forgetting,
a project by Agricola de Cologne which approaches to the theme of violence
and memory, generating a network of projects on- and off-line.
KML is also the place where we receive visits (and we organize workshops);
visits - lately more frequent then ever, of international contemporary
art personalities who arrive here at our invitation or because they have
heard about the major project of a contemporary art museum in Bucharest.
Over the last weeks I have presented this project to Nicolas Bourriaud,
one of the most prestigious theorists of contemporary Art, Director of
Palais de Tokyo, Paris, to Colin Ledwith from the British Council, London
(the curator of the British Pavilion from the last Venice Biennale), to
Marco Scotini, the Director of the Department of Contemporary Art from
Nuova Accademia di Belle Arti in Milan and independent curator, to Philip
Rylands, Director of Guggenheim Venice, to Martina Hochmuth from MuseumQuartier
and to Georg Schöllhammer from Springerin Vienna. All promised their
help and some projects are already materializing.
This is also how we co-opted the members in the international board, achieved
on the basis of personal friendships, as well as on the very firm commitment
of MNAC's new location in the Palace of Parliament, through which we convinced
them to get involved in a project of such a scope in Eastern Europe. An
inciting work in progress, but anytime susceptible (because of the Romanian
situation) to become a work in regress. Let's try though to keep our optimism
The board is a reference to obtain international legitimacy and to get
access in networks of significant cultural cooperation. The board members,
outstanding personalities on the international scene, will be supportive
(in fact, they already are) and I hope that they will succeed to offer
a "passage-way" for Romanian artists to the international contemporary
phenomena. In fact, I see in this synchronicity our chance to finally
emerge on the international scene (excepting those sporadic and isolated
cases).
MNAC board
Who are
the board members and to what degree does the Romanian public know them?
The members are: René Block (Director Museum Kunsthalle Fredericianum,
Kassel), almost mythical international curatorial figure, the gallery
owner who launched Beuys 30 years ago), Enrico Lunghi (Director Casino
Luxembourg - Forum d'Art Contemporain and one of the founder members of
Manifesta), Anders Kreuger (ex-Director Nordic Institute for Contemporary
Art, now free-lance curator in Stockholm), Catherine Millet (director
Artpress magazine, Paris), Nicolas Bourriaud (art theoretician, curator
and Director of Palais de Tokyo, Paris), Ami Barak (curator, President
IKT, Paris), Heiner Holtappels (video artist and media theoretician, Director
of the Netherlands Media Art Institute, Montevideo Time-Based Arts, Amsterdam)
At the international level we are, as it seems, "bulletproof".
At the local level, with its provincialism, it will be more complicated
The
Romanian public it is not very familiarized with what is going in the
visual field world-wide to answer, euphemistically, the second part of
the question.
Coming back to the board, it is said to be for the first time when something
like this takes place, and the successful outcome belongs to a large degree
to me, as well as the heroism to dominate in a Romanian context the site
of the biggest Museum of Contemporary art in Eastern Europe belongs completely
to Mihai Oroveanu, who succeeded in overcoming the suspicions and endemic
'bad-faith' that naturally appears when something 'constructive' is undertaken.
Believe me, you can only presume the meaning of something like this in
neverendingTransitionlandRomania.
As you probably know, because there were enough exclamation marks in the
press, of a more or less negative connotation, we are preparing to inaugurate
a new location: the wing E4 of the House of the People, today the Palace
of Parliament. The inauguration will take place around two-three international
exhibits, coming from Musée d'Art Moderne de la Ville de Paris,
Palais de Tokyo and probably Reina Sofia from Madrid, a series of site-specific
interventions, which are addressing directly to the complicated history
of the place, and an exhibit which I am responsible together with Mihai,
provisionally entitled Romanian artist, and not only, love Ceausescu's
Palace!?. The dubitative and exclamatory tone in the title comes from
a multifaceted relationship that we have with this edifice of infamous
memory, especially given the symbolic connotations that it provokes and
their side effect towards unimaginable significations ab initio - during
totalitarianism.
A large number of collaborators (surprisingly, the majority international)
perceive our "move" as something extremely provoking and beneficial,
for Romanian art as well as for the House itself, always isolated, either
in blame, or in the exaltation of the local constructive genius. There
is a lot of space, as I was saying, and we will have a lot to work on
for it to become alive. Maybe we will succeed to exorcise the place
We hope that it will not only be about the material and physical dimension,
but also the intellectual one. I consider this location a chance
and a very good idea of Prime Minister Adrian Nastase to situate MNAC
there. The location itself raises the interest of foreign visitors, in
a way in which Romanian contemporary art, isolated and touched by an "inferiority
complex", couldn't do. It is an extremely interesting and provoking
quality, but which can become a regrettable and conformist experience
if the specialists will not be allowed to have their say.
For there to exist an open and flexible space, the museum will need institutional
and financial autonomy in conformity with systems elaborated by similar
institution in the world. We are far from this exigency - and here we
need to speak about the cultural/museum legislation as well, that is currently
extremely deficient here. We are contacted by foreign experts in the field,
consulted vis-à-vis the standardization according to European legislation,
and they can hardly believe the situation.
About
the MNAC team?
The museum director, Mihai Oroveanu, is undoubtedly the charismatic personality
able to realize this project in Romania. All that we can reproach him
is an excess of decency in these days.
In the offices across the hallway, a few young specialists would give
you two answers to the question about their profession: curators, what
are they really, and 'museographers', what are they in conformity with
the "still outdated" profession directory. These professions
are quite different. What would be amusing, (if it were not so sad), is
the dual discourse to which we always have to resort. As much as one would
like to work in a western fashion (and let's say that 50% of the time
you can), one can't liberate their conscience of the local distortions
and can't always beautify the reality shown to the foreigners: the lack
of the fundamental notions and the lack of depth, all these forms without
essence.
We are an extremely united team, yet I wonder every day why my young and
capable colleagues still come to work, why they don't leave the country
permanently with the scholarships they receive, with the "indecent"
salaries that they have. Sacrifices and a general feeling of senselessness
make the Romanian curator a mystery.
Thus we are here about 4-5 "curatorial brains", each with a
remarkable CV. Raluca Velisar, the coordinator of New Media Department
will work as transferred specialist at Zenter fur Kunst und Medientechnologie,
Karlsruhe, one of the most important new media centers in Europe. She
also was the assistant curators at the Venice Biennale for the Calin Man
project with Kinema Ikon. A project about which, here, at home, the ignorant
malevolent spoke badly, but which marked a premier in Romanian art history,
being subsequently presented by Centre Georges Pompidou.
Florin Tudor, artist and curator, earned a lot of international prizes
of digital art (Viper Award, Switzerland) and is set to leave shortly
for residency in Austria. Mihnea Mircan has recently organized an exhibition
of Romanian videos in Milan in a prestigious gallery, in collaboration
with Nuova Accademia di Belle Arti.
There are things which count towards the image of Romania at an elite
level not at all negligible. Unfortunately, this fact is not to the liking
of the wide and implacable local 'mediocrity'. And once again, unfortunately
we are quite deficient at doing local PR. It is actually very difficult
to convince the press to get their attention towards something else beside
killings, dirt and scams. Generally, we do not have time to sing praises
to ourselves (not forgetting that about 90% of what Romanian mass-media
hails as a cultural phenomenon is obsolete, made by epigones and with
no value abroad - and it is extremely difficult for us to convince them
to do otherwise. Falsehood is overwhelming us: false values, false modesty,
a culture of mediocrity, when we have all the possibilities not to be
like this; and the absence of money
A poor artist in the computer era doesn't work anymore, the romantic cliché
is worn out. A poor university professor becomes automatically corrupt,
a good Romanian curator must act abroad as s/he cannot survive financially
here.
The sad concept "l'Ávenir nous quitte", I have found
embodied in the exodus of young Romanians
, the horizon of the young
people is somewhere else, and the condition of the young intellectual
here is not worth commenting upon. Bearing this in mind, MNAC should be
a provoking project, assuming the status of an institution of the present
as well of the future, suggesting a different type of openness, and engaging
the young segment of our audience.
About 10 years ago, the British Prime Minister raised the policy towards
young British art to the level of state politics, generating enormous
investments, and the phenomenon that he provoked is known to all of us
This could perhaps work as a model for us
Do you
still have time to write? In the Romanian press you are a rare presence.
You don't like interviews?
I have very little time to write. I am taking care of MNAC presentation
texts to the international partners and press and travel to conferences
abroad to inform about the "emerging" Romanian art. I write
almost exclusively in the foreign press. The public there is prepared
for the type of discourse that I maintain and this is the case for my
colleagues. Texts under press include: Whitechapel (on the hybrid relation
curator-artist-public), a text in Anthology of Art edited in 3 West-European
universities, in Tema Celeste (Milan) a text about the complexes of Balkan
cultures. The last curatorial experience, last fall, at Fridericianum
- in René Block's exhibit In den Schluchten des Balkans, patronaged
by the Kulturstiftung des Bundes, resulted in a bird's eye view of Romanian
contemporary art.
It should be mentioned in this context that we publish the magazine Artelier:
we succeeded in printing no. 8, on the inflation of the Balkan exhibits
that occurred lately, about exotic concepts and our confused marginality.
The magazine was excellently received in the specialist circles, unfortunately
quite narrow, in which we succeeded to distribute it.
Regarding interviews, the last that I remember were in Journal de Genève
and Imago, Another European Photography.
What are
the urgent problems of contemporary Romanian art scene?
Certainly, bits of answers are contained in the previous comments as well.
Probably the most important aspect is represented by the standardization
of the deficient situation regarding the free artists and curators' circulation
in other countries and by the emergence of a dynamic public, adaptable
to changes, capable of a constructive dialogue with the artistic phenomena.
Then, a different financial approach, which would radically change the
acquisition system and the art market, the mentality of the Romanian sponsor
and so on. There would be too many things to say and too many to change!
Any good intention is inevitably misconstrued in a landscape in which
helplessness and vexation are daily occurrences.
We have on one hand, the politicians (I am assuming that the majority
of them don't even make the distinction between contemporary and modern
art) and the Romanian public (in its majority retrograde in the visual
area, less so the young generation), and on the other, a handful of specialists
and artists internationally renown, less so here (they don't have a dialogue
with the press, not to mention with television), who continue to "fight
the wind-mills".
We hope to do our work at international parameters, not local, and in
that consisted mainly MNAC's strategic direction nowadays: the creation
of an international base for the realization of the project.
In what
type of art is Romania investing? Who would be the Romanian artists internationally
renown?
Unfortunately, Romania is investing particularly in epigone artists, completely
unknown outside the borders. Who of the "great professors-doctors-painters"
(sic!) of the Art Academy was, personally, as an artist, invited to exhibit
in an important museum abroad or is on a first class western magazine?
Even the titles of doctor painter is an abstruse local invention meant
to legitimize the absence of an international CV. There are just a few
names of artists who get in relevant international selections: Paul Neagu
(London), Grigorescu Ion, Mircea Cantor (Paris), Tudor & Vatamanu,
Perjovschi, Geta Bratescu, Calin Man, Kinema Ikon, Daniel Knorr (Berlin)
and only two, three curators. How many of them do you encounter in Romanian
mass media?
The painters of the moment for me? The list is subjective: some wonderful
people who are no longer among us, Horia Bernea and Florin Mitroi. Between
the active and likable: Batranu with the kitsch interiors, the representative
of Romanian neo-Mexican style: Gorzo with the Balkans, Comanescu with
Grand Prix Remix, then Benera with her painterly pseudo-manga, Setran
with the dogs, Suzana Dan with the dogs as well
(lots of dogs
it
is an older idea, of which I have not had time to take care of: the iconography
of the dog in the transitional art!
without mentioning Király,
with his memorable photo-dogs).
Video artists: Grigorescu, Tudor and Vatamanu, Irina Bucan Botea, Aurelia
Mihai (Germany), subReal (Király, Calin Dan / Amsterdam), Mircea
Cantor (France), Rasovsky, Marilena Preda, Mihaltianu (Germany), Patatics,
Estefan, Alexa (New York).
Photographers: Király, Oroveanu, Graur, Jacobi (Germany), Cosma
(London), Vanga (Paris), Knorr (Berlin), Nanca, Stan, Croitoru, Kavdanska,
Gontz (Austria). These types are slowly seeping through, strictly because
of didactical reasons, I am attempting here a classification. In fact,
they are artists who work with concepts, regardless of the use of the
medium, their proposal is idea-based, valid and interesting.
New coming clever minds in the field: Dediu, Tiron, Muresan, Costinas,
Ernu, Rusu (Moldova) - are extremely valuable names, rarely circulated,
as I was saying, by the mass media.
A few serious institutions which are promoting Contemporary art: Peripheric
- Iasi, ICCA, META, ARTEXPO, TURA, IDEA - Cluj, the Festival East Zone-
Timisoara, FAV, Tranzit Cluj.
The Contemporary Art and MNAC's role: the need for flexible structures
What would
be, in conclusion, MNAC's role?
Contemporary art is research, idea, sensor of the epoch, is a process
work and concepts network, prospective or introspective, of the subjectivity
of the contemporary epoch, less so a finite result. A cognitive process
reflecting the epoch dilemmas. It is a need of flexible structures, which
would engross capacities that exist on the intellect market. Of young
institutions, less predisposed to get stuck in the conformity that suffocate
us. The Romanian public opinion should understand that contemporary type
museum, especially the one of Contemporary art, is an open research lab,
is a space for the art engine, not an exponent of ossified forms (not
even the museum of Classical art is conceived like this anymore), a site
of dialogue between ideas, a place staged by curators and artists, in
permanent movement.
The legislation is taken to the absurd in the cultural field. The problem
of self-financing is well known. Kalinderu MediaLab, having the advantages
of a small structure, was 100 % self-financed last year. MNAC has made
efforts to obtain major sponsorships. Beneficiary of a large sponsorship
from Hewlett Packard, we recently became a part of their program of Excellence
in Art & Science - the first museum of contemporary art ever included
in this program, which numbers prestigious partners such as Louvre, Prado,
Uffizi, Alinari. Too few people know that these sponsorships were obtained
with difficulty. Even less known is the fact that a large part of the
expenses of the official inauguration will be sponsored - and here I have
to mention the special support of the French Embassy, of Ambassador Etienne,
other embassies and foreign cultural institutions in Bucharest.
The international auspices are wonderful; the local ones are quite deficient.
I believe I am already repeating myself.
The Romanian critics write in newspapers with a 20-30 year lag behind
today's information, promoting obsolete figures and structures. We are
struggling between the drama of a thick patriotism and the inferiority
complexes of a second-hand culture, not through its potencies, which could
be even first hand, but because of the hindrances that we put on one another
until exhaustion, primitive and aggressive with what we do not understand.
This small and poor community is eroded by egos and resentments. Far from
the monolithic unity with which the Slovenian art, for example, has crossed
with success the symbolic border between East and West (a still active
border), generating one of the most interesting phenomena in the European
contemporary art. We, in exchange, don't have the cultural cohesion of
the common effort, even though the purposes are similar more often then
not.
To all of the local detractors of the MNAC project (and I have to mention
that, with one exception, they are in exclusivity Romanians, but this
also wouldn't be very bad, because there do exist pros and cons, the comments
are welcomed, demonstrating that the project is alive and a generator
of polemics, as long as they are not exclusively libelous and malevolent)
I would oppose them with nothing less then the enthusiasm and adherence
letters of the international personalities co-opted in the board and of
the others who subscribe and encourage the project as the only one in
the Eastern Europe of such proportions.
How will the museum look after its inauguration in the Palace of Parliament?
We will propose more types of exhibitions, differently structured chronologically
and conceptually, trying to contribute to the healing (or at least to
the diagnosis) of the local climate and of our understanding of cultural
dialogue, but also to the elucidation of the situation of Romanian art
history over the last 20 years. The majority of the MNAC audience will
be especially the one with a fresh mentality. The mistake that MNAC will
not repeat is promoting compromises. That would get us nowhere. At least
not in art
It's a paradox, but unfortunately normal here at home, that a project
that moves at an European speed is greeted with resentment and local hindrances,
many times serving a nationalist retrograde complex.
We have imagined a tele-cabin that would carry grandparents with small
kids from the welcoming center all the way to the MNAC gate
(similar
to the Universal Expo in Hanovra. How amusing would something like this
be in the gray insipid landscape of Bucharest. For the moment, it's pure
utopia)
swimming-pools, coffee shops with media resource center
and videos screenings in open air
an unlimited access for a reticent
public who, maybe, will gradually become familiar with this culture of
liberty in the palace of a dictator of sad memory
but not everything
is possible given the budgetary and mentality restrictions with which
we operate.
MNAC can seem a groundless and useless provocation in a helpless country
or, on the contrary, can become a good institutional context - a desperate
tentative to hold on to normality. Finally having the role to balance,
perhaps, the perfidious discrepancy between a generous imagination and
a hard reality
Interview by Cosmina Ionescu
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